Trump, Family Listed in Epstein’s Contact Book: Old News, Questionable Reporting

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Trump and Epstein were good pals for over a decade. It’s almost impossible to ignore the clear connection and the time they spent together. The fact that their relationship stretched over such a long period naturally raises eyebrows, prompting questions about the depth of their association. It’s difficult to believe that someone as connected and involved as Trump wouldn’t have some awareness of Epstein’s activities, especially given their close proximity and shared interests. The notion of willful ignorance becomes a challenging concept to sustain in light of the available information.

I can’t see Trump not knowing what Epstein was doing when they were so close and shared a liking for similar distasteful things. The shared lifestyle and the types of people they surrounded themselves with paint a picture that doesn’t easily dismiss the idea that Trump was completely oblivious. Considering the specific nature of Epstein’s crimes, this raises significant moral questions, regardless of legal implications. The details of their interactions, coupled with the known evidence, make the idea of Trump’s ignorance hard to believe.

There is just too much there to deny what’s in front of you unless you’re being willfully ignorant. The evidence points to a strong connection that warrants careful examination. It’s hard to ignore the implications when you see the closeness and the consistency of their interactions. It’s not just about a casual acquaintance; it’s about a sustained relationship, making it difficult to disregard the potential implications.

The only friend that Trump has ever had based on all of the evidence. It’s important to note the nature of Trump’s relationships and the types of people he surrounds himself with. This pattern often reveals significant information, and the fact that Epstein might be the only person that is close to him, is a striking observation that has a huge impact on the narrative. Considering the types of individuals he has consistently associated with, we can see the type of things he values.

No friends from school, his childhood, normal business associates, not even relatives, nothing. It’s strange to think that over the course of Trump’s life, a controversial figure like Epstein seems to be the one who had his ear. The absence of long-term close friendships or connections from his earlier years is noteworthy. The question of who really had his trust and influence becomes all the more prominent.

Am I going mad, or is this the same “black book” that was originally published in 2015 and at the time was actually *less* redacted than it is now? The issue of timing and the perceived novelty of this information is really important. The fact that these documents have been available for over a decade and the level of redaction raise concerns. It’s legitimate to question the timing of the renewed focus on this information and what that says about those who are reporting it.

What’s the new news here? We’ve known about Trump’s and his family’s appearance in Epstein’s contact list for over a decade. The fact that this isn’t fresh information casts doubt on the motivation behind these latest publications. If this isn’t something new, then why the sudden interest?

Is The New Republic only just now catching up? Stellar journalism there. The idea that this document is only now being considered by mainstream publications requires a deeper investigation into the editorial decisions. There has to be a discussion to be had about the motives behind the timing.

Edit to add: yes, it’s indeed the same document that was released 10 years ago. The realization that the document has existed for years and that the new information is not that new casts further doubt on the motives of those publicizing it now. It highlights the challenges in filtering truth from sensationalism and the importance of examining the timing and source of information.

From the article: In an extensive list of hotels, there seem to be no listings between the Four Seasons Restaurant and Myers of Westwick—a sizable chunk of the alphabet that possibly could indicate a missing page. The fact that there are already known gaps in the published material underlines the issues of transparency and complete disclosure. This prompts the question of whether there’s more information yet to surface.

That same page break is in the 2015 release. The repetition of specific details further strengthens the argument that this isn’t breaking news but rather a rehashing of old information. It is difficult to see what is new about the latest revelations if those gaps already existed 10 years ago.

I’m genuinely a bit baffled by why The New Republic thought this was worth an article or whether they are even aware that the very same document they are describing has been in the public domain for over ten years? The publication’s focus on previously disclosed information sparks questions about the true purpose and potential motivations. It highlights the potential for agendas behind the presentation of information and the necessity of critical evaluation.

You don’t talk on the phone 3x week with someone you’re not VERY VERY close to. It underscores the intimacy of their relationship and the regularity of their communication. The frequency of phone calls between them provides a strong indication of their closeness.

It’s just so weird that Epstein took pictures with seemingly every celebrity he ever met but never really took very many photos with Trump… /s The lack of photographic evidence, given Epstein’s documented penchant for taking photos, is quite peculiar. The absence of photos does create an element of mystery and fuels curiosity. It is curious that such a close relationship did not seem to involve the same level of photographic documentation.

So we can convict the entire Trump family of pedophilia, if we ever get the chance? The attempt to link the contact book to the family’s guilt is a dramatic overreach and is dangerous to do without further evidence. It’s crucial to make a distinction between being listed in a contact book and actual guilt. The assumption of guilt based on association is irresponsible.

Good. Eskimo brothers. So close they could finish each other’s sentences. By having the one murdered. The comment that these men were so close they could finish each other’s sentences, highlights the extreme intimacy of their relationship, while the added context of Epstein’s death only makes the connection more disturbing.

It doesn’t really Mean anything. The simple idea that association should be considered proof of guilt or wrongdoing must be questioned. It suggests that merely being listed in a contact book doesn’t necessarily mean anything.

Unfortunately the only evidence that will make a difference is the photos the Russians have. The comment about the Russians possessing potentially damaging photos is a loaded comment. It reflects the idea that there is a lot more to know about this relationship, and raises all kinds of questions. The question of whether these “photos” exist and whether they would actually make a difference requires a deeper investigation into the potential contents.

And that’s going nuclear. The suggestion that some evidence could have a major impact on the situation has massive political and social implications. The implications of this are enormous.

Blood Brothers, to the end. The use of “blood brothers” illustrates the depth of the connection between these men. It’s difficult to deny that they were close, considering all the information that has been released so far.

Trump being in Epstein’s contact book is basically the politcal equivalent of finding your high school yearbook photo next to a dude who when to prison for life, it irks, but doesn’t automatically mean you broke the law. The comparison of being in a yearbook photo with an individual who commits crimes offers a useful analogy. It’s an important distinction to make in this conversation.

Everyone is starting to say the Epstein thing is a whole bunch of nothing! I’m starting to think so too! The potential to dismiss the significance of the revelations highlights the necessity of remaining objective. It is also important to consider the motivations of the people who are saying that it doesn’t mean anything.

Yeah Epstein was the exact type of person Trump would keep around. The connection between Trump and Epstein highlights a pattern of association. His choices reveal something about his character and the kinds of people he trusts.

A kiss ass with money that had girls at his beck and call. The description reinforces the idea that Trump was drawn to Epstein’s wealth and willingness to please. Trump’s choice of association suggests a willingness to ignore the ethical considerations.

I knew the DOJ would screw up and release something juicy. The reference to the Department of Justice releasing information demonstrates a lack of confidence in the legal system. It makes it clear that the focus is not on justice, but rather on political impact.

That whole department is empty of any competent workers at this point. The lack of faith in the competence of the department is a cynical commentary on the current state of affairs. This cynicism needs to be weighed.

and even epstein called him crazy lol The idea that even Epstein considered Trump to be crazy is a damning statement, given Epstein’s own moral standards. If even someone like Epstein had issues, it speaks volumes.

They’re bringing up all the old shit we already know about because they don’t want new shit to be used as ammo in impeachment proceedings. The concern about the release timing is a cynical observation about political maneuvering. It casts doubt on the integrity of the process.

They can use the argument that it did nothing then so with nothing new it can’t do anything to them now. The strategy of framing old news as relevant is a classic political tactic. The implication is that people are repeating the same argument to avoid new accusations.

It’s intentionally bad reporting. The idea that there is a conspiracy and that the media’s coverage of the documents is deliberately flawed should be thoroughly examined. It is important to know the biases of each news outlet.

All major US News outlets argued against the release of the Epstein files— these organizations are deeply compromised. The fact that the news outlets tried to argue against the release of the files is very telling. It suggests that they are not completely independent.

You have to be skeptical of independents too, obviously, but they’re more trustworthy as a rule of thumb in this case The need for caution and skepticism in this complex situation underscores the challenge of finding reliable information. It stresses the value of independent voices.

Just another wonderful secret. The final statement captures the public’s current sentiment. The idea that there are countless hidden details related to Epstein reinforces that there is a lot more to uncover. The idea that the public may never get a complete view of the picture.

Is your families contacts normally in your yearbook too? The question underscores the need for context and the importance of examining the specific relationships. It challenges the reader to consider the implications of these associations.

Context matters. The need to understand the full background is important. The reader is encouraged to consider the nuances of each situation.

No one is saying that but you, Dmitri. The focus on a specific commenter highlights the necessity of staying true to the details. The focus here is on accuracy.

They were both money launderers and blackmailers for international interests (allegedly). The suggestion that they were both involved in shady activities underscores the extent of their shared world. The allegations raise serious ethical concerns.

Of course they were friends, they were work colleagues. The acknowledgment that they were friends highlights the depth of their connection. The connection is a key part of the narrative.

When some of the worst people we know call Donald Trump terrible and they are correct, that really says something. The final thought brings up the importance of assessing character and ethical principles. The comment underlines the role of morality in evaluating any individual’s actions.