By Matt Underwood US military says 200 Marines being sent to support ICE in Florida.
Wow, the news that 200 Marines are being deployed to support ICE in Florida is definitely stirring up a lot of strong reactions. It’s hard to ignore the immediate questions that come to mind: Why? What exactly is the role they’ll be playing? And perhaps most importantly, what are the implications of blurring the lines between the military and civilian law enforcement? The initial reaction seems to be a mix of disbelief, concern, and outright anger. It’s understandable, really.
Their roles will focus on administrative and logistical tasks.
It’s important to note that, officially, these Marines are being assigned to administrative and logistical tasks. But even with that, the symbolism of Marines supporting ICE is striking. The very presence of the military in this situation raises eyebrows. The idea that the military, a force designed to protect the nation from external threats, is being utilized to support domestic immigration enforcement feels… unusual, to say the least. Why not civilian personnel for this, if it’s just logistics and admin? Why Marines?
Oh, but they have to be *Marines* because that impresses the cult.
That’s a particularly pointed observation. The thought that this deployment is more about optics than actual necessity is a hard pill to swallow. Is this just about projecting strength and authority? It definitely adds another layer of unease to the situation. The military is a symbol of strength and discipline, which could be seen as a way to add weight to immigration enforcement.
So the Military are police now? Silly me, I thought there were laws about that. Also- Feds washed their hands of this today. Said it’s Florida state.
The Posse Comitatus Act is a cornerstone of American law, designed to prevent the military from being used for domestic law enforcement. It’s a really important safeguard against the potential for military overreach. And the fact that the feds are reportedly washing their hands of this, and saying it’s a Florida state matter, only complicates things further. It’s a game of jurisdictional hot potato that leaves many wondering who is really in charge.
Wouldn’t dump have to declare something to deploy troops to Florida if he’s saying this is all something Florida state is paying for? So much for loyalty to the Constitution.
There’s definitely a contradiction here. If this is a state matter, and the state is footing the bill, then why is the federal military involved at all? Wouldn’t there need to be something like a state of emergency declared to justify deploying the military on U.S. soil? It’s a reasonable question to pose. The whole situation seems like a test case in pushing the boundaries of what’s permissible.
This drives me crazy. A little over a decade ago the conspiracy-minded right were insisting that Obama was going send the military in to jail “patriots” in FEMA concentration camps. Now that Trump is sending in the military to help abduct people from their court appearances, their churches, their schools, their jobs – kicking in their family’s doors to search for them- they love it.
It’s almost ironic, isn’t it? The very people who once feared the military being used against them are now, seemingly, embracing it. It shows a shift in priorities, or perhaps a willingness to overlook certain actions depending on who is in charge. It’s a disturbing illustration of how political allegiances can often override fundamental principles.
As a veteran I hate to see the continued use of the military by the Trump administration. To my eye, it seems that they’re being used more for intimidation than any legitimate purpose.
The fact that veterans are voicing concerns is significant. It suggests this is about more than just politics; it’s about the core values of the military itself. If the military starts to be perceived as a tool for intimidation, it undermines its very purpose. It impacts the trust the public has in the military.
There’s no unrest in California that civilian law enforcement can’t handle. While ICE’s budget was shot, their garbage bill just gave them a ton of money. There’s no justification for marines to be sent to CA other than to occupy it to intimidate people from speaking out. Why are active-duty Marines being pulled into immigration stuff? ICE already has a huge budget,. Are they seriously that short on people?
This hits on the practical side. The question of need. Is it necessary? Are there alternatives? The feeling is that this is another indication of the current administration’s intention to exert its power by force or the threat of it.
I get it’s “logistical support” only, but it still blurs the line. Military helping with civilian enforcement never ends well.
The concerns about the “blurring of lines” are very valid. When the military gets involved in civilian law enforcement, it opens the door to a lot of potential problems. The training, the culture, the rules of engagement—they’re just fundamentally different. The historical record shows this is where things tend to go wrong.
Fuck the fascists, still protesting on the fourth I would be so pissed being in the military right now. Just being used as a pawn. More Brown shirts to fill up Auschwitz. From the sci fi series Battlestar Galactica …
The anger here is palpable. The comparison to the Nazi era is a potent one, and it’s clear the writer believes this situation is a step in a dangerous direction. The quote from Battlestar Galactica, emphasizing the separation between the military and police, really captures the core of the concern.
””**There’s a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people**.”” What in the Semper FUCK This’ll be great for tourism, get fucked desantis Mark my words. Ice will be stationed at polling places at the midterms to intimidate voters.
That Battlestar Galactica quote really is the crux of the matter, and the fear expressed that ICE might be stationed at polling places for the midterms is another level of concern. The military is for defending the country from external threats, and the police are for serving and protecting the people of the country. Mixing the two, when there is no civil unrest, really does bring up a lot of questions about the way things are going.
This is how they will win the midterms. What do Marines know about law enforcement? Military state. Isn’t even hiding it at this point, what with the marines deployed on u.s soil again, and massive budget increase for ICE.
That’s a cynical take, but it’s a valid concern. There is the risk that a show of force could be used to intimidate voters or to suppress dissent.
Make sure you tell all of your enlisted friends how the “Big Beautiful Bill” completely guts food stamps or SNAP
This really highlights the disparity between how people are impacted by the budget, and how the military is deployed. Military families are often the first to lose out when it comes to SNAP programs or food stamps. It speaks to a sense of resentment that many military members might have towards this current arrangement.
Many people don’t seem to know hundreds of thousands of military families are on SNAP/food stamps, if you’ve ever been to a commissary on base you will see multiple families buy groceries with their EBT cards
It’s easy to forget about the struggles of those who are putting their lives on the line for the country. And the fact that military families may need food stamps really highlights the issue that is going on, with these families struggling.
Worlds richest country with the most money spent on “defense” and we have military families on food stamps programs that we just voted to throw in the wood chipper for billionaires to get richer Using the military against the people …. I thought that’s what Republicans were against. Trump is sending “suckers and losers”? Weird. So sad to see the rise of fascism in America.
It’s hard to argue with the economic realities of the world when you hear this. The juxtaposition of massive defense spending with struggling military families is stark. The idea that the military is being used against the very people it’s supposed to protect is a very serious accusation, and the comparisons to authoritarian regimes are not being made lightly.
Wasn’t the military being used against citizens, unmarked vans abducting people and sending them to camps, and be denied entry for your social media post opinions the sort of stuff that all the right wing conspiracy media was ‘warning’ against for all these years? They got 175 billion and they’re sending… Marines??
There is a lot of truth in what’s being said. The irony is almost unbearable. They were warned about what would happen and now they’re doing it. And sending in the Marines? How did this become the answer?
Trump isn’t going to stop until this country is in ashes huh? So. Just the end of Posse Comitatus? I wonder what will be like when this iteration of fascism face its Nuremberg. Soo… ICE is the American “Schutzstaffel (SS)”? Do I get this right? When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty The slide down the slope to the mid 1930s continues… only change this time round is offending country I’m not sure we can still call it the “US Military”.
The fear that we are descending into a situation like the 1930s in Germany is the fear that many have. The idea that ICE is becoming the American equivalent of the SS is very powerful. And the assertion that the military is no longer the “US Military” is terrifying, because it signals a deep distrust of the institution itself.
July 4th is now meaningless. Independence Day was for celebrating our freedom from unjust rule and taxation. Nothing to celebrate now but false idols. This doesn’t feel concentration camp-y at all Marines as enablers of fascism, what a shame With their new budget, ICE isn’t a law enforcement agency, they’re the new Gestapo Americans fuck themself up. Oath didn’t mean fuck all then, did it? traitors. Marines CANNOT legally be mobilized in the US without very specific reasons, such as to quell an uprising. This is illegal. Trump continues to normalize the use of active military forces within the US in clear violation of the Posse Comitatus Act.
The sense of betrayal is clear in these comments. The Fourth of July, independence, freedom—it all rings hollow when the military is being used in ways that seem to contradict those ideals.
Yet another step toward true authoritarianism. So the military is gonna be complacent in this? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME Whoop there it is! Normalizing usage of U.S military on American soil. I always thought there was a law that disallowed the American military from operating on domestic soil? I know Trump doesn’t care, but shouldn’t someone else be able to block this? I bet they’re really proud. First using the military to squash a demonstration, now they are being used in kidnappings and deportations into concentration camps.
The question of complacency—will the military allow itself to be used in this way? The concerns around “normalizing” the military’s use within the country are very real.
Yeah, grunt, its shame and dishonor from now on. Remember the SS? Thats you now. Thats how you will be remembered. Fuck ice. Fuck Trump. They can hang out and help clean up hurricane messes too since Trump scammed DeSantis on the FEMA funds for building Auschwitz 2.0 Southerners championed the idea of the Posse Comitatus Act after the American Civil War and now they hate it for some reason. Weird. With this new bill the “Gestapo…ICE) is going to grow big. Alcatraz is only the first camp expect the ovens soon. I was in the Marine Corps. I have no clue what MOS or job function in the Marine Corps could be of any help to ICE.
The visceral reactions are difficult to ignore. The comparison to the SS is an incendiary one, but the level of fear and anger is quite clear.
Unless they’re just looking to decimate and conquer an area or create another Abu Ghraib style prison disaster this can’t be for anything other than show. LOL This is the sequel to Idiocracy. What a bunch of dumb fucks. Honestly looking down at how fucking stupid and weak about the decisions being made is hysterical. So glad I can watch from afar and not be affected by this abysmal bullshit. Anyone feeding this fire please remember to keep an extinguisher in the kitchen.. fucking morons.. lol Slowly transferring military members into ICE. Congrats, Marines. You are Trump’s lap dogs. Semper Fi, now. Imagine serving right now and this is what you’re being ordered to do Looks like the Cuban population that voted for him are soon to experience the FAFO part of this.
The feeling that this is all for show, or that it’s a disaster in the making is very pronounced. The suggestion of a slow transfer of military personnel into ICE is chilling. The sense that this situation is beyond repair and is only getting worse is quite strong.